tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post4313456858032283480..comments2024-03-01T21:01:15.174-06:00Comments on Biblical Christianity: Should Palin speak to The Media? Posing the questionDJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-91538873564946050172008-10-03T09:37:00.000-05:002008-10-03T09:37:00.000-05:00Also, I think that if Proposition 8 (the Tradition...Also, I think that if Proposition 8 (the Traditional Marriage Amendment) fails, then in many ways that's an even more important electoral voting decision than the result of the Presidential election.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-8640142064689082002008-10-03T09:19:00.000-05:002008-10-03T09:19:00.000-05:00How I look at myself: Faithful Remnant.How others...How I look at myself: Faithful Remnant.<BR/><BR/>How others (non-Christians and wishy-washy LibProts and Emergers) view me (and other Biblical Christians): Stubborn, inflexible, dogmatic, close-minded, unyielding old coots who just don't know how to get with <I>the program</I> for the important sake of unity and harmony.<BR/><BR/>Such aspersions are enough to make me abandon the Faithful Remnant.<BR/><BR/>Not.<BR/><BR/>P.S. DJP, CR, Stefan, PolyCarp, the TeamPyro regulars, and many others... y'all are the Faithful Remnant and it's gonna cost ya!!Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-28498529231150712312008-10-03T09:07:00.000-05:002008-10-03T09:07:00.000-05:00I here you, TUAD. It does look pretty bleak on th...I here you, TUAD. It does look pretty bleak on the prop 8 thing. Just 8 years ago, CA handily voted to keep marriage between a man and woman. My how, things change in 8 years.<BR/><BR/>With the presidential election, just remember, pollsters, especially, those backed up by the MSM, are trying to influence public opinion. Their sample is anything but a random sample, sometimes heavily inflated with democrats.<BR/><BR/>But I hear you, it does look bleak.CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-10046097032154340762008-10-03T08:44:00.000-05:002008-10-03T08:44:00.000-05:00Oh, TUAD, though a lifelong Californian, I've thou...Oh, TUAD, though a lifelong Californian, I've thought of it often, and am looking to move.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-3866762078604801762008-10-03T08:40:00.000-05:002008-10-03T08:40:00.000-05:00Dan, great post!But then again, I'm part of the ch...Dan, great post!<BR/><BR/>But then again, I'm part of the choir that you're preaching to.<BR/><BR/>I regularly track RealClearPolitics and it's looking pretty bleak for McCain/Palin. I can only hope that the polls are extremely skewed and biased. And that there'll be a November surprise (and with all the major lawsuits that would come from the Democrats.) Otherwise, the American electorate will get what they deserve.<BR/><BR/>And if folks think the Iraq war was long, just think about 8 years of President Obama. 8 years!<BR/><BR/>Couple that with the real possibility that California voters will vote down Proposition 8, the amendment to protect biblical marriage, and how that's going to have a HUGE ripple effect on other states....<BR/><BR/>Perfect storm baby! 8 years of President Obama, legalized gay marriage, large tax increases, long and enduring recession, national security compromised, meanstream media reinforcing and embedding liberal leftist complaints that it's all the fault of conservatives (for what actually are liberal mistakes and malfeasance), and sheeple believing the echo chamber of the liberal meanstream media, etc....<BR/><BR/>Yet, God is good and God is great. Noah's Ark is in His Word and in a solid Bible-believing church.<BR/><BR/>P.S. Wouldn't be surprised if DJP and family moves out of California with the added incentive of Prop. 8 going down in flames.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-48816441864803294722008-10-03T07:37:00.000-05:002008-10-03T07:37:00.000-05:00What lovely teeth they have; the better to bite/de...What lovely teeth they have; the better to bite/devour you with, my dear(flashback: Little Red Riding Hood). It's a good thing for prey to understand their predators; love the post. :-)J♥Yce Burrowshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14974221921014132431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-18137467968881990822008-10-03T01:31:00.000-05:002008-10-03T01:31:00.000-05:00"I am Scared of what the women at my girls' soccer..."I am Scared of what the women at my girls' soccer league might say or think of me if I "come out" as a Palin supporter but express a desire to hear their point of view. I'm ashamed that my fear of their hating me is greater than my desire to love them."<BR/><BR/>Rachael - I appreciate your candor.<BR/><BR/>Since loving God is even more important than loving other people, I think it would follow that pleasing God is more important than pleasing others. I believe that concentrating on pleasing God would lessen your fear of their hating you. Loving them would probably follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-73801424757586972582008-10-02T14:10:00.000-05:002008-10-02T14:10:00.000-05:00No kidding. BTW, a word of advice...when you go va...No kidding. BTW, a word of advice...when you go vacation in the Sierra and take those scary photos of angry wolves and other animals, it means *your sermon went bad and you should run*. <BR/><BR/>I'm about to deliver my first one next month---the Gospel, no edge-cutting, thank you---and I feel any unbelievers there will look like that after I'm done!Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05267525662313103148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-28667523241007792202008-10-02T13:49:00.000-05:002008-10-02T13:49:00.000-05:00Well that's right, Gil. And they form a template t...Well that's right, Gil. And they form a template that controls all subsequent reporting. it's their criterion for news selection.<BR/><BR/>Palin has to be an ignorant, dangerous, cretinous rube. Otherwise she is so devastating to so many of their cherished fantasies. Only what fits in that template — even if it must be fabricated — is reported.<BR/><BR/>Obama, on the other hand, is an intellectual, Messianic figure, and we're darned lucky to have him. So when he makes statements many times more ignorant and foolish and just-plain-<I>wrong</I> than anything Palin says? Never happened. Devoted to terrorists and racists? No cause for alarm. Move along.<BR/><BR/>It's a version of the age-old question: if an Obama gaffes in a debate and the media doesn't care, did it ever happen?<BR/><BR/>But if their template were that <I>he</I> were the dangerous, green, ignorant ideologue — we'd be reading and hearing totally different reporting.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-4204982227919834292008-10-02T13:39:00.000-05:002008-10-02T13:39:00.000-05:00With the unbelieving world, it takes suspicion, no...With the unbelieving world, it takes suspicion, not proof, to destroy someone's credibility in the media. Working in the media for several years, I know this all too well. This is what is happening to Palin.Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05267525662313103148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-21889365570289029222008-10-02T12:29:00.000-05:002008-10-02T12:29:00.000-05:00Thanks, Dan, for the "Christian Takeaway" segment....Thanks, Dan, for the "Christian Takeaway" segment. That really helped. Reminds me of Jesus sometimes answering a question with a question.John S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11067981739761251859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-13152542162996931922008-10-02T12:00:00.000-05:002008-10-02T12:00:00.000-05:00"Research has shown that, not only do they not rep..."Research has shown that, not only do they not represent us, they don't even know us. They don't even socialize with pro-lifers, with Biblically-faithful Christians. They don't know what we're thinking to ask what we're wondering."<BR/><BR/>And that point is 100% true for many more than just the MSM. But the problem (or opportunity, depending on one's degree of spiritual backbone) is that, as unbelievers, they are not obligated to love us, understand us, etc. They are acting entirely out of their nature as spiritually dead. We, on the other hand, are the ones called to act entirely out of our nature to love them, do good to them, pray for them, and then be willing for them to STILL hate us! <BR/><BR/>And I'm saying this out loud as a woman embedded pretty deeply in enemy territory here in the Bay Area, and realizing to my shame that this idea Scares me. I am Scared of what the women at my girls' soccer league might say or think of me if I "come out" as a Palin supporter but express a desire to hear their point of view. I'm ashamed that my fear of their hating me is greater than my desire to love them.<BR/><BR/>"If she is a clever and talented as McCain says she is, then let her show it."<BR/><BR/>Personally, I'd rather her cleverness and talent be demonstrated through her record of political accomplishments, relative to her time in office, vs. her ability to win the political equivalent of Celebrity Doge Ball. But then again, I didn't really get all excited over Bill Clinton's saxaphone playing, and I was apparently in the minority there too... :)Rachael Starkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781158372237369417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-59066235623542957562008-10-02T11:59:00.000-05:002008-10-02T11:59:00.000-05:00It's really easy to get depressed over what's happ...It's really easy to get depressed over what's happening. First the media tells us if we don't elect Obama, we're racists. Enter Palin, she gets some positive polls, McCain goes up in the polls, then the media starts slandering her saying stuff like it was her daughter that had the baby, and it continues to remind us, that if we don't elect Obama, we're racists.<BR/><BR/>Enter financial crisis - media tries to tell us it's Bush's fault and the Republicans even though Republicans warned about the Fannie and Freddie in 2005 - it continues to remind us, they tell us how bad Palin is and if we don't elect Obama, then we're racists.<BR/><BR/>Polls start going up for Obama. We conservatives get depressed, thinking, oh, my it's over (have to admit, I've fallen for that), voting starting in Ohio, people in the MSM tell us that the election is over trying to influence people especially those who would vote for McCain - the election is over and reminding us if we don't elect Obama, then we're racists.CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-42586568255185031982008-10-02T11:21:00.000-05:002008-10-02T11:21:00.000-05:00Hi Dan,First time commenter here. I agree with yo...Hi Dan,<BR/><BR/>First time commenter here. I agree with you that the MSM is left-leaning...this year decidedly so. But I'd still take issue with several points you made:<BR/><BR/><B>1. The MSM is bent on her destruction, so she shouldn't talk to them.</B><BR/><BR/>I agree with the antecedent, but you've got the consequent exactly backwards. You compare the MSM to the likes of Reid/Pelosi/Boxer/etc. But these are <I>exactly</I> the people she is going to have to interact with if elected, so her ability to mix it up with Gibson/Couric/Ifill is not irrelevant to me as I evaluate her ability to (possibly) head the ship of state. I mean, if she can't handle "what newspapers do you read", how on earth is she going to deal with Barney Frank and his ilk on a policy negotiation point? She's relatively unknown politically (or was a month ago, anyway). We need to see if she has the chops to handle the big stage, so avoiding interaction with those that don't like her doesn't give us much to go on.<BR/><BR/>As an aside, you might complain that there is no similar way to scrutinize Obama/Biden, but I would simply reply that them's the breaks when you run for political office. Life's not fair. And Obama <I>did</I>, at least, go on the Factor with O'Reilly. And he managed to speak complete sentences the entire time, which is more than I can say for Palin with Couric.<BR/><BR/>2. There are no media outlets from which she can get a fair shake.<BR/><BR/>Well I just agreed with you that this is mostly the case on the national level. But come on...there are hundreds of regional and local newspapers and TV stations that would love to sit down with her. Surely her campaign can find a dozen that would give her a fair shake? It's just not acceptable, in a country of 300 million people, to keep the candidate running for the #2 spot in the whole land cloistered.<BR/><BR/>3. Examine the premise of the question.<BR/><BR/>This was a nice point, and I appreciated the application to the questions that we as Christians get. I'll tuck those away. But it seems to me that you are suggesting that Palin refuse to hear any unfair premises at all! Believe me, I would have loved nothing more than if she would have, in her interviews, done a little premise-examining and called Gibson/Couric out on a few of their nonsense gotcha questions. But she didn't do that, and the result was pretty miserable. Look, when the non-Christian asks that loaded question about hell, you say we should <B>engage</B> the non-Christian by examining his/her premises for the question. But for Palin you say she should <B>disengage</B> from anyone who might have an unfair premise behind some of their questions. I don't get it.<BR/><BR/>I've never voted for a Democrat for president, and I don't expect I'll start this November. But I don't think there is any reasonable excuse for keeping Palin out of the media spotlight. If she is a clever and talented as McCain says she is, then let her show it.<BR/><BR/>Grace and peace to you.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11461779196978884237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-633745407879202482008-10-02T10:49:00.000-05:002008-10-02T10:49:00.000-05:00Tired and weary of reading "deconversion" testimon...Tired and weary of reading "deconversion" testimonies a few days ago, I found an ex-skeptic's testimony and website. This is someone who had previously engaged in energetic debate with apologists.<BR/><BR/>Her basic premise was that if a Christian is going to engage (or be engaged by) a skeptic, the believer must first understand the rules by which the skeptic is playing, then engage the skeptic on reciprocal terms (<A HREF="http://www.ex-atheist.com/games-skeptics-play.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> and <A HREF="http://www.ex-atheist.com/message-to-young-christians.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>).Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-9364904498899315942008-10-02T09:59:00.000-05:002008-10-02T09:59:00.000-05:00I don't want you to be right, Steve, but I fear yo...I don't want you to be right, Steve, but I fear you are.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-1019224693032868872008-10-02T09:56:00.000-05:002008-10-02T09:56:00.000-05:00Dan,Seems to me that there are three things that a...Dan,<BR/><BR/>Seems to me that there are three things that are working against us ever electing another true conservative (like Reagan).<BR/><BR/>1) The MSM is blatantly and proudly leftist and will from now on, actively campaign for the liberal and against their opponent.<BR/><BR/>2) American voters are getting more liberal in their worldview.<BR/><BR/>3) American voters are too attached to the promise of big government taking care of them. So, they elect those candiates who promise them the most.<BR/><BR/>I think is was John Adams who said that once American citizens realize they can vote themselves a government handout by electing certain types of politicians, our republican form of government would be in trouble. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure there are more factors, but these taken together mean more candidates like Obama.<BR/><BR/>America is in for a rough future.Steve Lammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06994451968247281749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-31054832552050953322008-10-02T08:53:00.000-05:002008-10-02T08:53:00.000-05:00Yes, Carlo, while you were writing this I just add...Yes, Carlo, while you were writing this I just added two (un-noted) updates to the post giving some further substantiation to that.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-52568018479731277602008-10-02T08:51:00.000-05:002008-10-02T08:51:00.000-05:00Some conservatives in Washington, like Bill Kristo...Some conservatives in Washington, like Bill Kristol, have argued that the McCain campaign have held Palin too tight and argued they should let her loose and just be Palin.<BR/><BR/>I don't have much respect for many of the conservative Washington pundits because they are afraid of public opinion from the media elite just like everyone else. But Bill Kristol is astute on many issues. I don't know if he is right on this issue. <BR/><BR/>Incidentally, a non-believing, non-voting friend of mine called me last night. He told me how obvious the media is so in the tank for Obama including VP debate “moderator” Gwen Ifill whose book on Obama will be released on inauguration day.CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.com