tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post5154896018074422883..comments2024-03-01T21:01:15.174-06:00Comments on Biblical Christianity: Change: my role, your role — some thoughtsDJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-35571505074978108122012-02-08T15:43:46.664-06:002012-02-08T15:43:46.664-06:00Thank you for your kind words.
I probably should ...Thank you for your kind words.<br /><br />I probably should have closed comments. I more was hoping to (as I wrote) spur some thought and some personal heart searching and possibly action.<br /><br />I don't want to create the impression that everyone agrees with me bec the comments generally do. I have gotten (and rejected) two critical comments. They're both from good folks about whom I think nothing but fond and affectionate thoughts; but the comments were (in my judgment) afield, so I responded personally. And I'll just say to anyone who wants to speculate about the condition of my heart: let's just stipulate that I'm a mix of good and bad, in need of continued growth and sanctification.<br /><br />But I'm not really the issue, or I wasn't meaning to be. What I wanted (and tried) to talk about is <i>change</i>, power structures, sheep and the status quo.<br /><br />So with this, I'll close comments.<br /><br />And I'll ask you to <i>think about the point of the post.</i><br /><br />And if it's completely a misfire for you — sorry! Maybe you'll get more out of the next one.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-12815027141090269962012-02-08T15:13:59.051-06:002012-02-08T15:13:59.051-06:00Brother, I don't comment much, but wanted to t...Brother, I don't comment much, but wanted to tell you that you are dead on. Keep it coming!oddXianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15427095709766850092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-15470231776723665322012-02-08T14:55:59.543-06:002012-02-08T14:55:59.543-06:00Don't stop but continue. I wish someone would ...Don't stop but continue. I wish someone would have started/continued in the Episcopal church 2-3 decades ago. Anyone want to know what happens to a church or denomination where people stay silent, don't want to be offensive or allow themselves to be cowed because they prefer popularity? Look at the old, dead mainline denominations. I sometimes wonder who will turn out the light in some churches when the last member out the door is lying horizontal in a casket. I know that's harsh but pastors and congregants who care about souls ought to be worried about now. Worried the way the OT prophets, Athanasius or Augustine and the Reformers were worried.Mizz Harpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18220764076008867988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-53426065030902697592012-02-08T14:53:38.962-06:002012-02-08T14:53:38.962-06:00oops
Observations #1 from a #4
1. There are “nam...oops<br /><br />Observations #1 from a #4<br /><br />1. There are “name people” who deserve a voice (MacArthur).<br />2. There are “name people” who don’t deserve a voice (Furtick).<br />3. There are “no name people” who deserve (greater) voice (DJP).<br />4. There are “no name people” who don’t deserve a voice (me).Mark Pattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05117048243320547358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-11810262466466394182012-02-08T14:43:34.791-06:002012-02-08T14:43:34.791-06:00Final observations from a #4
I have read you long...Final observations from a #4<br /><br />I have read you long enough to know that this post is not a plea for “at a boy, you keep it up”, so I’ll simply say “at a boy, you keep it up.”Mark Pattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05117048243320547358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-88836856926143865742012-02-08T14:42:59.027-06:002012-02-08T14:42:59.027-06:00Observation #4 from a #4
1. Irony: “name people” w...Observation #4 from a #4<br />1. Irony: “name people” who got their voice only got their “name” because they loudly and constantly promoted the truth in various forums.<br />2. Irony: “name people” who got their voice only got their name” because they loudly and constantly promoted themselves.<br />3. Irony: “no name people” who don’t have a (greater) voice are constantly told to pipe down because we want to hear from the “name people” when (as you reference in your post), the only way “name people” get a name is by not piping down.<br />4. Irony: all #1 and #3 started out as #4 but progress to be a #3. Then someone let them keep speaking loudly and clearly in different forums and they progressed to a #1.Mark Pattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05117048243320547358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-56389401016133496992012-02-08T14:42:04.960-06:002012-02-08T14:42:04.960-06:00Observation #3 from a #4
1. “name people” should g...Observation #3 from a #4<br />1. “name people” should get to keep their voice only as long as they are able to credibly defend the truth that got them the voice.<br />2. “name people” should be constantly told they don’t deserve a voice because of celebrity and to sit down because they don’t know what they are talking about.<br />3. “no name people” who are deserving of a (greater) voice often aren’t given a (greater) voice simply because they have “no name.” <br />4. “no name people” who don’t need a voice are desperate for #1 and #3 to continue to do battle with #2 so we can learn and hopefully move to be #3.Mark Pattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05117048243320547358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-55892398947041912002012-02-08T14:41:12.058-06:002012-02-08T14:41:12.058-06:00Observation #2 from a #4
1. “name people” who have...Observation #2 from a #4<br />1. “name people” who have a voice got there because the constantly and loudly defend the truth that got them the voice.<br />2. “name people” who don’t deserve a voice got there because they are good with tricks, or look good, or have a good band.<br />3. “no name people” who deserve a (greater) voice demonstrate they deserve a (greater) voice by defending the truth that proves they deserve a voice.<br />4. “no name people” who don’t deserve a voice got there because they aren’t capable of articulating the truth in a way that proves they deserve a voice.Mark Pattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05117048243320547358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-77249298733231814622012-02-08T13:56:57.144-06:002012-02-08T13:56:57.144-06:00I just noticed the cat picture: "I don't ...I just noticed the cat picture: "I don't wanna read all that!"<br /><br />I couldn't help but to laugh...but then I wondered how many people in the third grouping might have that exact thought about this post...Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987985549747283669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-40316150500580807982012-02-08T13:34:33.706-06:002012-02-08T13:34:33.706-06:00Not trying to be over the top, but another example...Not trying to be over the top, but another example would be Jesus...He didn't stop criticizing the Pharisees' form of worship and living. And that was continued by Peter, John, and Paul. And God worked through the prophets to show the problems with Israel's worship and lifestyle in the OT.<br /><br />I'd say that we have many Biblical examples to follow in this matter and that people should be able to explain why we shouldn't follow the Biblical example. <br /><br />I guess this explains your tweet from earlier today...Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13987985549747283669noreply@blogger.com