tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post5522333064401926202..comments2024-03-01T21:01:15.174-06:00Comments on Biblical Christianity: One hysterical scholar; or, When academics throw hissy-fitsDJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-9991477589494019532010-11-22T12:59:04.669-06:002010-11-22T12:59:04.669-06:00I was able to access the article through my librar...I was able to access the article through my library account at the University of South Africa. I'd suggest you try your local public or seminary library for access through ATLA or ProQuest.<br /><br />As for the article, he is very telling. His main concern is that he considers anything but historical criticism, form criticism and source criticism to be the legitimate focus of the old mission statement of SBL (to foster critical scholarship--it now reads to foster biblical scholarship). That, and he doesn't like being evangelized. I'm an evangelical, and a critical scholar--rhetorical and sociological criticism. Anything that is simply concerned with simply what the text says is not critical in his view. However, I point him to Muilenbergs 1968 address and subsequent paper that said it's time to move beyond form criticism and get to what the text has to say through rhetorical criticism.<br /><br />Based on this quote, "The views of creationists, snake-handlers and faith-healers now count among the kinds of Biblical scholarship that the society seeks to foster," it sounds like he wants to limit the definition of critical scholarship and violate the fundamental principle in academic freedom of freedom of inquiry even if it means questioning the consensus. He's been learning from the scientists. I appreciate my doctoral supervisor--at a liberal institution, who constantly reaffirms with me, "Please, feel free to disagree with me, just be sure to provide verification."bahreliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11405530364500862130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-1424738466079586602010-10-30T09:37:00.420-05:002010-10-30T09:37:00.420-05:00Does everyone here have access to the complete BAR...Does everyone here have access to the complete BAR article? I am allowed to only read the first paragraph. Need to become a member it seems. In any case there is a very well written response linked to in the comments section of the above mentioned article. The response was called "An Army of Strawmen...". Good response to humanism in general. I highly recommend it.<br /><br />John SellmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-66335944346734272942010-10-30T08:42:37.913-05:002010-10-30T08:42:37.913-05:00It's well-known: Waltke is a wild and crazy gu...It's well-known: Waltke <i>is</i> a wild and crazy guy.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-55399148810771245502010-10-30T02:28:55.604-05:002010-10-30T02:28:55.604-05:00Hendel thought that Bruce Waltke was in the catego...Hendel thought that Bruce Waltke was in the category of a snake handler or a faith healer?<br /><br />Like Hector Avalos and Dan Barker used to be?<br /><br />Like a real, honest to the flying-spaghetti-monster faith healer?<br /><br />That's amazing. I wonder how that went over at RTS? I can only imagine what their chapels must have looked like:<br /><br />I'm just picturing Bruce Waltke getting the annointing while preaching, calling up anyone who needs a healing, and then slapping John Currid in the forehead (*GLORY!*) and back into the arms of Mark Futato and Miles Van Pelt, who lay him down on the ground to twitch beside Ligon Duncan and John Frame.<br /><br />Yup. That's how I've always pictured chapels at RTS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-66630155246651644092010-09-02T22:08:02.367-05:002010-09-02T22:08:02.367-05:00I am so loving that gif...
The wisdom of this wor...I am so loving that gif...<br /><br />The wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08880927777319578503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-19541069274746403192010-08-19T09:58:58.084-05:002010-08-19T09:58:58.084-05:00I think one of the commenters there points that ou...I think one of the commenters there points that out: Waltke had to quit his last gig because his position seemed not conservative enough, but Hendel has to storm out in high dudgeon because Waltke's too conservative.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-57453307834539335772010-08-19T09:54:14.112-05:002010-08-19T09:54:14.112-05:00I thought Waltke was notorious recently for coming...I thought Waltke was notorious recently for coming out as NOT believing the text.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-76308831784183314412010-08-17T20:44:54.583-05:002010-08-17T20:44:54.583-05:00post Mosaic and post Solomon Hebrew. It's ama...post Mosaic and post Solomon Hebrew. It's amazing nobody caught that in three millenia before Hendel.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15285043747501470199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-40699517819335905912010-08-17T17:46:18.769-05:002010-08-17T17:46:18.769-05:001. It could be Dr. Hendel, who mightn't care.
...1. It could be Dr. Hendel, who mightn't care.<br /><br />2. It could be saying "Oh my guppies!"DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-6925837726216412882010-08-17T17:45:17.408-05:002010-08-17T17:45:17.408-05:00Don't you think it is sad for a grown man to s...Don't you think it is sad for a grown man to spend his life immersed in something he recognizes only as a myth? It's like spending all your time, reputation and treasure on the My Little Pony mystique. Though I actually think it is Satan's attempt to attack God's people at their core, those people themselves must have to jump through some hoops to explain it to themselves.kateghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13870043371240806213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-4706988062594132152010-08-17T17:34:59.096-05:002010-08-17T17:34:59.096-05:00Your gif is blaspheming (I've always wanted to...Your gif is blaspheming (I've always wanted to say that).Garrett Leaguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07418221622445775232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-3228656133780084862010-08-17T15:39:36.420-05:002010-08-17T15:39:36.420-05:00Imagine that.
Folks who read the Bible at face va...Imagine that.<br /><br />Folks who read the Bible <i>at face value</i>—believing what it claims to be, the Word of God—infusing their nutty beliefs into an organization devoted to...studying the Bible.<br /><br />So the fundamental criterion for "reasoned" study of the Bible is repudiating its claims outright. Because that's, er, <i>reasonable.</i>Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-76630814534565655882010-08-17T13:34:19.889-05:002010-08-17T13:34:19.889-05:00I just realized I put 'righting' instead o...I just realized I put 'righting' instead of 'writing'- fail. <br /><br />Oh, and I also love the GIF.Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17606292899155249285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-41239701442469057172010-08-17T13:28:54.922-05:002010-08-17T13:28:54.922-05:00Thanks Chuck - yeah, I meant to mention the commen...Thanks Chuck - yeah, I meant to mention the comment thread. There are one or two who applaud his marvelous bravery... but mostly, not so much. I was pleasantly surprised.<br /><br />SolaMommy - there's actually one I like better, but I can't find it from work. I think the pages where it's hosted are blocked. Check back later tonight maybe.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-87298580900267154762010-08-17T13:25:06.835-05:002010-08-17T13:25:06.835-05:00That GIF is cracking me up.That GIF is cracking me up.SolaMommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07569633683299802644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-70502751810127302572010-08-17T13:22:15.389-05:002010-08-17T13:22:15.389-05:00Read the comment thread over there. Apparently Hen...Read the comment thread over there. Apparently Hendel misrepresents just about everyone in this article. Other SBL/AAR members showed up and pointed out that:<br /><br />1. Other, more evangelical types- specifically the Pentecostal group mentioned- have been there for over a decade.<br /><br />2. The reason they split up? Overcrowding, not cash. <br /><br />3. The AAR/SBL are meeting together- again- until at least 2014. So much for the Academia backing his assertions up. <br /><br />All in all, if he can't get that right, why would I listen to the rest? I mean, he ain't righting this on his Facebook page or something- it's the BAR.Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17606292899155249285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-81179980320916100952010-08-17T13:15:21.118-05:002010-08-17T13:15:21.118-05:00Dr. Hendel writes: "What to do? Well, I’ve l...Dr. Hendel writes: "What to do? Well, I’ve let my membership in SBL lapse. Maybe that’s a cowardly response, but sometimes, as Shakespeare wrote, “The better part of valor is discretion.” Sometimes it’s reasonable to avoid conflict."<br /><br />And then, to avoid conflict, he writes an article for a rather widely-read publication which posts his article online. So much for his use of reason.jmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07164857192077648887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-218713910822980612010-08-17T13:14:40.822-05:002010-08-17T13:14:40.822-05:00And stop rolling your eyes at me.And stop rolling your eyes at me.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625691560372353977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-36593565191978830522010-08-17T13:13:40.966-05:002010-08-17T13:13:40.966-05:00I'm reading Waltke's O.T. Theology right n...I'm reading Waltke's O.T. Theology right now. Hendel is right about him. Waltke is a loon who really does believe the stuff. Nuts.<br /><br />As opposed to a loon who devotes his life to scholarizing literature that purports stuff that he doesn't believe.Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16625691560372353977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-3912951695038044082010-08-17T12:37:21.927-05:002010-08-17T12:37:21.927-05:00Sounds like a party to me. A weird one with no be...Sounds like a party to me. A weird one with no beer and lots of falling down anyway, but a party none-the-less.FX Turkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798420127955373559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-26458058949065497622010-08-17T12:14:50.980-05:002010-08-17T12:14:50.980-05:00Well, it sounds like the marbles he’s taking with ...Well, it sounds like the marbles he’s taking with him are the ones he’s lost along the way so… would it be rude to say, “don’t let the door hit…" (I guess it would be so I won’t).<br /><br />I do find the “creationists, snake-handlers and faith-healers” grouping as fascinating as usual and wonder what I as a creationist am missing out on by not hanging out with the other two. I guess I’ve got to get out more.Ron (aka RealityCheck)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03274921909241630662noreply@blogger.com