tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post4336065141157276505..comments2024-03-01T21:01:15.174-06:00Comments on Biblical Christianity: What?! (Rick Warren on Hannity & Colmes)DJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-67025653251617335062008-12-15T14:14:00.000-06:002008-12-15T14:14:00.000-06:00To be honest, I tried reading Purpose Driven Life ...To be honest, I tried reading <I>Purpose Driven Life</I> <B>before</B> I was even saved, and found it superficial in its treatment of faith and Scripture.<BR/><BR/>Granted, that was just my subjective opinion, and not being a Christian at the time, my opinion would have been coloured by that, but the impression has stuck with me.<BR/><BR/>Not all that Pastor Warren has said or done is bad, but like others here have said, his public utterances (both written and spoken) seem to be uneven in their solidity and consistency.Stefan Ewinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05530690016594029847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-16252833934124699062008-12-15T10:48:00.000-06:002008-12-15T10:48:00.000-06:00May your tribe increase, DJP.May your tribe increase, DJP.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-28657967429035706132008-12-15T10:35:00.000-06:002008-12-15T10:35:00.000-06:00You're welcome to express it, Tex; no problem.You're welcome to express it, Tex; no problem.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-78390511154754870692008-12-15T10:32:00.000-06:002008-12-15T10:32:00.000-06:00Warren has just done an interview with Steven Wald...Warren has just done an interview with Steven Waldman at Beliefnet. Link: http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2008/12/Rick-Warren-Videos.aspx<BR/><BR/>I would suggest to folks that they read his book for themselves, and read about what he's done for other causes worldwide -- read more than simply what others say about him -- and make up your own mind. Avoid getting caught up in the pro- or anti-Warren hype. <BR/><BR/>FYI, I am a big Dan Phillips fan ... I just got animated with my minority opinion in this case. No offense meant to Dan or any of you.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-40604855743610129762008-12-14T17:46:00.000-06:002008-12-14T17:46:00.000-06:00This story even made the Christian Newspaper "Dage...This story even made the Christian Newspaper "Dagenmagazinet" in Norway.<BR/><BR/>.. the dreadful part? The person who wrote about Mr. Warren's interview concluded that the gospel presentation was radical and uncompromised.<BR/><BR/>I tend to disagree with that.Andreashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12328735579967677116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-52194818137068192982008-12-13T10:20:00.000-06:002008-12-13T10:20:00.000-06:00Texscot, are you serious? Not sure if I should la...Texscot, are you serious? Not sure if I should laugh or cry.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00168363955644093592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-11981950199197673952008-12-13T09:59:00.000-06:002008-12-13T09:59:00.000-06:00CR, to which I would posit, maybe there's a place ...CR, to which I would posit, maybe there's a place for both Warren and Lloyd-Jones in the body of Christ. Each has different gifts, different personalities, different ministries. Vive la difference.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-1474772609503277912008-12-13T02:38:00.000-06:002008-12-13T02:38:00.000-06:00I was listening to one of the recorded messages pr...I was listening to one of the recorded messages preached from Lloyd-Jones today. (Man, WHAT a preacher!)<BR/><BR/>Contrast Warren's response of giving Jesus a 60 day trial to Lloyd-Jones message of "Nothing short of the power of the gospel will make you a Christian." The contrast makes what Warren said, as scandalous.CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-13386316794697195482008-12-12T16:21:00.000-06:002008-12-12T16:21:00.000-06:00CR, I think Warren's 'Try Jesus for 60 days" was o...CR, I think Warren's 'Try Jesus for 60 days" was odd at its worst. I do have issues with some of the things he has said and done; I just don't think it warrants the criticism voiced here. I've removed my comments and have taken up my concerns with Mr. Phillips personally. I don't want to foment any more argumentation, and I fear I am. Let's just agree to disagree.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-1675304227850884582008-12-12T16:16:00.000-06:002008-12-12T16:16:00.000-06:00Dan, excellent summary of what a Jew is "suppose" ...Dan, excellent summary of what a Jew is "suppose" to believe! Why... Why cant guys who get on TV just defend what they claim they believe? I get so sick of all the capitulation. I mean sick!<BR/>I saw this video the other day but your response that should have been given in classic!Dan Odomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04487886439322903720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-55295407708005059622008-12-12T16:03:00.000-06:002008-12-12T16:03:00.000-06:00Texscot: Dan, to answer your question, you began b...Texscot: <B><I>Dan, to answer your question, you began by admitting you hadn't read any of Warren's books, but had heard some 'wretched quotations from him'. Which ones?</I></B><BR/><BR/>We do have this interview that he did on H&C. What do you think of how Warren answered Colmes' questions and what do you think of how he should have answered it, that Dan suggested.<BR/><BR/>Texscot: <B><I>Is it possible that Warren is a brother who ACTUALLY wants to see people saved, and errs by going too far in the direction of pragmatism to do so? Might we cut him some slack? </I></B><BR/><BR/>Maybe if Warren was a new professing Christian for a few weeks, I think we might "cut him some slack." But he is a <B><I>shepherd</I></B>! And he says people should give Jesus "a try for sixty days?!"<BR/><BR/>Texscot: <B><I>(Maybe there's some key quotation I haven't seen that would be the clencher, and then I'd feel full liberty to bash Warren too, but I haven't seen it yet.)</I></B><BR/><BR/>Did you read the quote on this meta on the H&C interview?CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-81551485211916680862008-12-12T15:40:00.000-06:002008-12-12T15:40:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-5941500461276683422008-12-12T13:29:00.000-06:002008-12-12T13:29:00.000-06:00We hear a lot about the dangers of Nike Christiani...We hear a lot about the dangers of Nike Christianity - as in, "Just Do It."<BR/><BR/>But I call Rick Warren's approach Mikey Christianity - as in, Mikey from the old Life cereal commericals.<BR/><BR/>"<I>Try</I> it, you'll <I>like</I> it!Heeeey, Mikey <I>likes</I> it!."<BR/><BR/>Ick.<BR/><BR/>OTOH, I can't help thinking back to the Presidential Forum thing he did during the election. I thought it would be a diasaster, but in hindsight it was way more revealing and helpful than the ridiculous excuses for debates. It made me wish he'd do stuff like that fulltime instead.Rachael Starkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781158372237369417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-90484550520463736652008-12-12T12:37:00.000-06:002008-12-12T12:37:00.000-06:00Oh boy, this subject touches a nerve for me. We w...Oh boy, this subject touches a nerve for me. We went through an annus horribilis in a Southern Baptist church when we spoke up and said we couldn't in good conscience participate in their "40 Days of Purpose". <BR/><BR/>It doesn't surprise me that Rick Warren can recommend that someone "try Jesus" for 60 days. In the gospel-according-to-Warren, man's biggest problem is not his sinfulness, it's his lack of purpose.<BR/><BR/>False teaching will always come with some truth in the mix. Satan masquerades as an angel of light.Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00168363955644093592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-11341541544963939182008-12-12T12:28:00.000-06:002008-12-12T12:28:00.000-06:00Wow, "even much more orthodox than Schuller"! Is t...Wow, "even much more orthodox than Schuller"! Is this like saying the Sahara is drier than the Mojave? Just how far down the road to Perdition do you have to go before such comparisons are meaningless?RThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08285891444546787144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-2451988480681938502008-12-12T11:53:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:53:00.000-06:00I actually have read PDL, a catholic friend gave i...I actually have read PDL, a catholic friend gave it to me as a gift soon after I was saved. I didn't think it was that good, but I couldn't put my finger on why. During that time I was beginning to read the bible so I wouldn't have noticed is use of different translations, I didn't even know there were different translations back then.Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385067178930906667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-85764121809464660982008-12-12T11:52:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:52:00.000-06:00Well, Chris... Tex... whatever — how about if you ...Well, <B>Chris... Tex... whatever</B> — how about if you back 'WAY up, and start by talking about what I actually <I>did</I> discuss in the post, and not what I <I>didn't</I> discuss? Let's start there.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-75979885169678172452008-12-12T11:49:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:49:00.000-06:00See Dan, he's just harmless ... like the bumpersti...See Dan, he's just harmless ... like the bumpersticker says, "Try Jesus, if you don't like him, the Devil will take you back."<BR/><BR/>8{OJackWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384160992033491748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-31114339195881132732008-12-12T11:48:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:48:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-33753251012443358082008-12-12T11:40:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:40:00.000-06:00"I don't know whether you heard my last sermon..."..."I don't know whether you heard my last sermon..." i did, it was an excellent sermon! :)<BR/><BR/>As for Warren all I can say is Lord have mercy!.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>Chris</B> seriously?Moonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01385067178930906667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-88095302750935159542008-12-12T11:32:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:32:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-60899847217289266722008-12-12T11:29:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:29:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.texscothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752879586124565165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-73209028741997844532008-12-12T11:25:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:25:00.000-06:00Oh, rats, I'll have to take back that place where ...Oh, rats, I'll have to take back that place where I said Warren is the Devil!<BR/><BR/><I>{ looking.... }<BR/><BR/>{ looking.... }<BR/><BR/>{ looking.... }</I>DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-83040093533228106452008-12-12T11:20:00.000-06:002008-12-12T11:20:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chris Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832290458905110111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-45477478503322948632008-12-12T06:45:00.000-06:002008-12-12T06:45:00.000-06:00CR ... a "born follower" is just the type of leade...CR ... a "born follower" is just the type of leader the Lord is looking for.JackWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16384160992033491748noreply@blogger.com