tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post5484600276124562415..comments2024-03-01T21:01:15.174-06:00Comments on Biblical Christianity: Don't miss these: 10/31/08DJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-914571065256852542008-11-01T19:25:00.000-05:002008-11-01T19:25:00.000-05:00People lie to pollsters for all kinds of reasons. ...People lie to pollsters for all kinds of reasons. Some just don't want anyone to know how they plan to vote. People lie in exit polls about who they just voted for and we know this because the results of the precinct are often significantly at odds with the exit polls. If the exit poll is conducted correctly and randomly then the actual result should come close to the exit poll tally within a margin of error.<BR/><BR/>Other people lie to pollsters because they assume it is what the pollster wants to hear. Some do it because they fear being branded as racist if a poll asks if you are white and will vote for a black candidate. The opposite is also true. Lying to pollsters is a well known problem to people who try to conduct honest polls. <BR/><BR/>It sounds like what you experienced is push-polling where the pollster tries to elicit a particular response. No pollster worth his salt would engage in that kind of polling.<BR/><BR/>If they're not lying to the pollsters then that is not good news for John McCain.Lieutenant Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987709254944483092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-24046067930392550912008-11-01T14:54:00.000-05:002008-11-01T14:54:00.000-05:00Susan Estrich:"The only way all these polls could ...Susan Estrich:"The only way all these polls could be that far off is if people are lying in numbers never before seen in American politics."<BR/><BR/>Or, it could be that they word their questions in a way that increases the chance they'll get the outcome they're looking for. Today I received a call about a ballot issue in Ohio. The man asked whether I thought the economy in Ohio was (a)completely in the gutter and on the road to utter destruction (paraphrase) or (b)on the right track, on the road to prosperity. There was no option for anything in between. <BR/><BR/>Then, he asked a question about the gambling issue on the ballot that turned into a lengthy diatribe on the benefits of said issue. I interrupted him to ask him what the question was. Apparently this was an "infosurvey." <BR/><BR/>He ended with the usual demographic question, including a question about my religion. I said, "Christian." Then, he asked...ready for this....he asked whether I considered myself to be "born again" or "evangelical." Apparently, (at least to the pro-gambling lobby), they're not the same thing. Fascinating. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, my point being that the polls are often not worth the script they're written on. However, if Obama loses, we know how they're going to spin it. <BR/><BR/>As for the assertion that people would lie about it to pollsters: my own dear mother (who is not a Christian), will not vote for Obama because he is black. It's ridiculous to think that she would lie to a pollster on the phone about who she's voting for. It's not like there's a high likelihood they're going to accuse her of being a racist or come and burn a cross in her yard if she says she's voting for McCain. What would be the incentive for people to lie to pollsters?Carol Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10673519352535257199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-82289818414433435002008-11-01T14:22:00.000-05:002008-11-01T14:22:00.000-05:00You clearly do not want honest answers to your qu...You clearly do not want honest answers to your questions. But that's laid out at length <A HREF="http://bibchr.blogspot.com/2008/10/confession-of-obama-blogger.html" REL="nofollow">in this thread and meta</A>. I won't repeat.<BR/><BR/>Whoever you are, you have completely blown your credibility here.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-17655550499679958502008-11-01T14:18:00.000-05:002008-11-01T14:18:00.000-05:00Banned? Dude! Is that your MO? I thought you va...Banned? Dude! Is that your MO? I thought you valued the freedom of speech. <BR/><BR/>I must be pretty dumb because I don't see what I've done to deserve your wrath. All I want are honest answers to the questions I ask. But you don't have to ban me, I'll just go back to lurking in the shadows.Lieutenant Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987709254944483092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-62980287831162566652008-11-01T09:44:00.000-05:002008-11-01T09:44:00.000-05:00Actually, all already anticipated and answered, ag...Actually, all already anticipated and answered, again and again. Not going to reinvent the wheel for you because it doesn't fit your agenda.<BR/><BR/>Dude, it's not working. How can I say this more plainly? IT'S NOT WORKING.<BR/><BR/>So here's your first warning. Nobody is required to comment. But commenters are required actually to read the posts. Change your ways, or you're heading for a banning.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-72744565375872281282008-11-01T08:33:00.000-05:002008-11-01T08:33:00.000-05:00CR-Most likely, much of those contributions are fr...CR-<BR/><I>Most likely, much of those contributions are from foreigners (which is illegal) and people going over the limit. </I><BR/><BR/>Sounds like a lot of speculation to me. Have you got any proof? Or is it another conspiracy theory of FNC and the right-wing? I doubt you'd care about this if McCain were the one raising the money. <BR/><BR/>DJP- All the major news organizations reported on problems with Obama's fundraising last month. Your assertion that the media won't cover it is wrong and you're late to the party. The story indicated problems with both campaigns receiving donations from fictitious donors. The analysis was limited to the primary period since McCain can't raise money now except through the RNC.<BR/><BR/>I tested both campaigns online fundraising after reading the stories by simuating a donation. Obama's made me enter full information. I even had to attest to being retired. The McCain website asked similar questions.Lieutenant Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987709254944483092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-91625796243786579642008-10-31T17:27:00.000-05:002008-10-31T17:27:00.000-05:00Really, Carlo?Wow! Wait until the mainstream media...Really, Carlo?<BR/><BR/>Wow! Wait until the mainstream media gets wind of <I>that!</I><BR/><BR/>< /sarcasm >DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-48247269487445962552008-10-31T17:00:00.000-05:002008-10-31T17:00:00.000-05:00Terry,Obama has raised $300 million with with dona...Terry,<BR/><BR/>Obama has raised $300 million with with donations of $200 or under. (I think is about 50% of what he has raised). He refuses to release those donors of less than $200, which is not required by law. McCain releases all his donors. Most likely, much of those contributions are from foreigners (which is illegal) and people going over the limit. You can purchase these "disposable" credit cards where you deposit money in and use it anywhere. It's virtually untraceable.CRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01912897040503058967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-38074250631827154102008-10-31T16:22:00.000-05:002008-10-31T16:22:00.000-05:00A common thought is that Obama's campaign is finan...A common thought is that Obama's campaign is financed entirely by the "little people" as masses gave less than $200, unlike those mean ol' Republicans.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://patterico.com/2008/10/31/the-ugly-side-effect-of-obamas-huge-fundraising-he-would-owe-more-political-favors-than-any-other-president-in-history/" REL="nofollow">Patterico</A> has an interesting article showing the reality that Obama will have a HUGE number of people he would be beholden to, if he were elected.Terry Rayburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00888533194435826837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-27024790956219454272008-10-31T16:21:00.000-05:002008-10-31T16:21:00.000-05:00If a blogger along with many commenters believed I...If a blogger along with many commenters believed I was a shill for somebody else's agenda, that would <I>at the very least</I> give me pause to consider why.<BR/><BR/>I might actually examine my motivations for commenting and check where my ideas originiated.<BR/><BR/>Lt just keeps rolling with the punches.Andrew Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13325110133957216983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-18701812747504975662008-10-31T15:48:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:48:00.000-05:00My very thought, though I didn't voice it; don't w...My very thought, though I didn't voice it; don't want to motivate him to "prove" us wrong.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-57899231367096570172008-10-31T15:37:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:37:00.000-05:00My bet is that Lt. Pratt will disappear from this ...My bet is that Lt. Pratt will disappear from this blog on November 5.candyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088593538648596769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-76272829732272064712008-10-31T15:13:00.000-05:002008-10-31T15:13:00.000-05:00Mesa- You've gone off the deep end.Mesa- You've gone off the deep end.Lieutenant Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987709254944483092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-18500070652367995212008-10-31T14:14:00.000-05:002008-10-31T14:14:00.000-05:00Dan, you should be proud of the fact that your blo...Dan, you should be proud of the fact that your blog has been deemed worthy enough to attract <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminar_caller" REL="nofollow">seminar posters</A>.Mike Westfallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944727980772754938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-12076095985049677642008-10-31T13:31:00.000-05:002008-10-31T13:31:00.000-05:00Anyone wondering about "Lieutenant Pratt," check h...Anyone wondering about "Lieutenant Pratt," <A HREF="http://bibchr.blogspot.com/2008/10/confession-of-obama-blogger.html#comments" REL="nofollow">check here</A>.DJPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16471042180904855578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-53929834692869060062008-10-31T13:15:00.000-05:002008-10-31T13:15:00.000-05:00Every good president consults his advisers before ...Every good president consults his advisers before making a decision. Just like every military commander takes good counsel before sending men to their deaths. No man is an island and no man can know every right move, especially when the decision does not involve moral issues. Isn't that what Bush did with Iraq? He was convinced by his advisers that it was right and then sent them out to sell it with images of mushroom clouds and rose petals paving the way into Baghdad.<BR/><BR/>Haven't we had enough of a president who "knew the right thing to do" and plunged the nation into a bad war and a miserable economic crisis?<BR/><BR/>These are the kinds of opinions you get when watching too much FNC and reading right-wing media lies. I'm not a fan of the other media either and try to pay as little attention as possible. But it occurs to me that when one limits their sources to writers that spend all their energies confirming a presupposed position...duh!Lieutenant Pratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05987709254944483092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9313009.post-14377448250587896542008-10-31T11:33:00.000-05:002008-10-31T11:33:00.000-05:00Did you see what Bill Clinton said at the FL rally...Did you see what Bill Clinton said at the FL rally? Transcript here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/bill_clintons_speech_at_obamas.html<BR/><BR/>Relevant snip: "And he may even be mad at me for saying this so closest to the election but I know what else he said to his economic advisers. He said tell me what the right thing to do is. What's the right thing for America, and don't tell me what's popular. You tell me what's right and I'll figure out how to sell it. That's what a president does in a crisis, what is right for America. " <BR/><BR/>Um - in a crisis, a good president does what is right for America after he asks his advisers what that right thing is? Because he has no idea himself?? Horrible English but can you hear my voice spiraling upwards in horror???Colloquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08530006843488477150noreply@blogger.com