Sunday, June 08, 2008

June 8, a day of shame — for Mormons

I wonder how many freed souls count this as "the day I realized my cult was full of baloney"?

Read this excellent piece by m'man Aaron Shafovaloff.

4 comments:

David said...

One word, Relax!

On one hand your linked article tell me the Priesthood is worthless and yet we are condemned for not ordaining everyone? If we were being strictly Biblical, then none of us would have it, as none of us are Levites.

But the way you speak of it, I think you misunderstand what Priesthood is. It is not meant as an honor for one to lord over another. It is an opportunity for service. No one was forbidden to serve.

And what was that about the Temple? Both early Christians and the Savior himself spent a lot of time there. Why are we so casually dismissing it today?

Lilith said...

But the way you speak of it, I think you misunderstand what Priesthood is.

The priesthood has a sacrificial element. In Mormonism, the priesthood is nothing more than a hierarchy of authority, with different keys, like a lodge.

And what was that about the Temple? Both early Christians and the Savior himself spent a lot of time there. Why are we so casually dismissing it today?

We don't casually dismiss it, we rejoice that God has consecrated each Christian to be the temple of the Holy Spirit.

David said...

The priesthood has a sacrificial element. In Mormonism, the priesthood is nothing more than a hierarchy of authority, with different keys, like a lodge.

Nothing more than a hierarchy of authority? Dang, I must have bombed out then, because I have no one to boss around but my kids. Of course, anyone who tried to use authority like that would invalidate himself in a second. Maybe if you called it a hierarchy of responsibility instead... And keys like a lodge? No, not really. That is not even close to what keys are.


We don't casually dismiss it, we rejoice that God has consecrated each Christian to be the temple of the Holy Spirit.

I respect your difference of opinion (and I really didn't come on here looking for a fight, honest), but if that was that there was to it, why did Paul risk making the Jews so angry when he took some non-Jews inside? Why did so many other saints spend so much time there, if they were temples already? What was it they got there, they could not get elsewhere?

Lilith said...

David: if that was that there was to it, why did Paul risk making the Jews so angry when he took some non-Jews inside? Why did so many other saints spend so much time there, if they were temples already? What was it they got there, they could not get elsewhere?

The specific place of worship doesn't matter, only the relationship with the Father through the mediation of the Son matters.

John 4

[20] Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

[21] Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.