Wednesday, June 18, 2008

When Christians hide in church, with God...

...this sort of barking, drooling madness can occur.

A story which could be multiplied by the thousands.

UPDATE: Al Mohler adds some good thoughts (thanks, Candy)

19 comments:

Daryl said...

Methinks that a daughter who would take Dad to court over a grounding...was lost to him long before the grounding.

God help us.

Jay said...

So let me get this straight... in Canada a pre-teen can go to a court, say "I want you to overrule my father's grounding of me," and not only do they not laugh at her, they actually give her what she wants?

Geez Louise...

Stan McCullars said...

A good stoning might be in order.

However, I'm not sure if it's the girl or the court that needs it.

Rileysowner said...

Typical nanny state interference in family that should never happen. It probably wouldn't happen in other Canadian provinces. . . yet . . . well except for British Columbia.

Jay, do you really think it would be much different in many states in the US? If so you really need to read some of the recent rulings from the more liberal states judiciary. I would guess this could happen anywhere. Doesn't child protective services already overrule parental authority over things they should never have their nose in at all?

Jay said...

rileysowner: I guess I'd have to read some of those rulings before I made an opinion. As it stands, I have a little more hope that Americans still respect the freedom to raise children as one sees fit (as long as the children aren't being harmed, of course)

Stan McCullars said...

I, as an American redneck, had a simple rule when our son was still in our house.

If anyone (including child protective services) tries to take my son, they die.

Rick Beckman said...

I hadn't heard about this one, Dan. Thanks for sharing it.

Although I wasn't quite so frustrated with world affairs prior to your sharing it. It's things like this, things that don't make the huge headlines (at least not that I've seen), which really reflect the state the world has gotten itself into.

I posted a short blog entry about this news story (linked below in "Links to This Post" called "A Brave New World"), if you're interested.

If the courts continue as they are, then this truly is but the tip of the iceberg.

Parents, love your children... before the whole concepts of parentage & family are obsoleted in the West.

Carl said...

And we think American courts have gone off the deep end? Watch Canada's legal system closely, folks. It's deterioration is what we can expect in the not-so-distant future in the U.S.

CA RN to Honduras Missionary said...

My daughter, who is 12, would not have the foggiest idea that taking her parents to court is even a possibility, it wouldn't occur to her even if she did know, and how about taking away the computer in the first place? I have to completely agree with daryl - she was lost to him WELL before this incident. Probably at the age of 2 when she first showed her defiance and the parents looked the other way.

Of course, things can be in extremes the other way - I assume you've all heard of the parents that disciplined their 13 year old by tying him to the tree - and he died. Sigh...what a dark world we live in.

DJP said...

I'm sure you're not meaning to say that every rebellion by a child is immediately traceable to parental failure.

Because it isn't.

Daryl said...

That, at least, wasn't what I was intending to say. (Although upon further reflection, it sure reads that way doesn't it?)

Whether through her sin, his sin or circumstances beyond anyone's control...some children will be lost to some parents. Sadly.

I still wonder though, where are the adult judges who would see her case, smile kindly and say "I'm sorry sweetie, not in my courtroom you don't."

Mesa Mike said...

> ... where are the adult judges who ...

There are probably plenty of them (I hope...).

However, you never hear about these cases unless they progress beyond the getting-laughed-off-the-docket stage.

Still, a shame that any do.

DJP said...

Oh, I like this comment from "lilylangtree" at FreeRepublic:

"As a parent, I’d pack her suitcase without the computer, give her the name of the nearest shelter, and show her the door or at the very least, haul her little [self] in front of the judge after this ruling and tell him she’s his problem now."

candyinsierras said...

Bizarre. When I worked with at-risk teens in New Hampshire, authorities in Maine stated to various organizations that they would not even be allowed to put kids in time-out.

I like the response of lilylangtree.

How frustrating this must be for the parents!

candyinsierras said...

Al Mohler weighs in about this matter at his blog too.

DJP said...

All sorts of people read my stuff.

(c;

Gilbert said...

Yes, we do. ;-)

In all seriousness...I loved my parents, but if they could do one thing over, I wish they would have spanked/disciplined me more when I deserved it. As it is, with the California courts trying to usurp parental authority recently, one need not look outside our own backyard for the darkness overcoming our country.

Wow. What an uplifting, don't-worry-be-happy response!

Gilbert said...

Wait. How about this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/20/rude.awakening.ap/index.html

Solameanie said...

I wish more would get the gumption to tell the courts to go pound sand. People have the idea that they're the supreme branch of government and they're not, at least here in the U.S

Under our constitution, the Congress can restrict the jurisdiction of the courts. It's time they did.

I also like what President Andrew Jackson did with the Supreme Court (although I don't agree with WHY he did it). He said something along the lines of "So the court has ruled. Now let me see the court enforce it." Enforcement is the job of the Executive Branch.

In terms of Canada, I think I would have tanned the girl's hide, and then informed her that I'd find her and do it again after I got out of jail. This judge needs to be yanked from the bench.