Sunday, May 17, 2009

Obama at Notre Dame: a prediction

The most single-mindedly pro-abortion president ever is about to speak and be honored at a Roman Catholic institution, and reportedly will touch on abortion.

Non-prophetic prediction: whatever he says on the subject will be condescending, misleading, and/or an outright lie.

Now we'll see how I do.


Jay said...

Hopefully BHO won't follow Biden's example and reveal classified information about things intended to protect him.

Mike Westfall said...

He'll say something along the lines of, "No matter what your personal views on the issue, we can all agree that reducing the number of abortions is desirable."

In other words, he'll wave his hands at the issue.

Anonymous said...

Mesa Mike, "No matter what your personal views on the issue, we can all agree that reducing the number of abortions is desirable."

That's my prediction as well.

Odd though. If he wants to reduce the number of babies dismembered why is he removing any and all restrictions and using tax dollars to pay the practitioners of this barbarism?!

I guess that's where we see Dan's prediction coming true: whatever he says on the subject will be condescending, misleading, and/or an outright lie.

Obamachus Epiphanies is an antichrist. We should expect no less from such a one.

Jay said...

Mesa Mike: Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

I found the rest of his speech to be full of Hallmark sentimentality that didn't mean squat.

Carol Jean said...
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Carol Jean said...

Text of SpeechFirst, it's nice to see that our president is getting all religilous [sarcasm flag up] Apparently Jim Wallis and Donald Miller are rubbing off on him:

Your generation must decide how to save God's creation from a changing climate that threatens to destroy it...

And part of the problem, of course, lies in the imperfections of man _ our selfishness, our pride, our stubbornness, our acquisitiveness, our insecurities, our egos; all the cruelties large and small
[like cruelty toward the unborn?] that those of us in the Christian tradition understand to be rooted in original sin. We too often seek advantage over others. We cling to outworn prejudice [and don't forget our guns and religion!] and fear those who are unfamiliar. Too many of us view life only through the lens of immediate self-interest and crass materialism; in which the world is necessarily a zero-sum game. The strong too often dominate the weak,[unborn babies, for example] and too many of those with wealth and with power find all manner of justification for their own privilege in the face of poverty and injustice. And so, for all our technology and scientific advances, we see here in this country and around the globe violence [against the unborn] and want and strife that would seem sadly familiar to those in ancient times...[like those who sacrificed their children to Molech, for example!]

OH MY GOODNESS!! The hypocrisy! How about a little justice for the UNBORN!!!

Maybe we won't agree on abortion, but we can still agree that this heart-wrenching decision for any woman is not made casually, it has both moral and spiritual dimensions." [sarcasm flag still up] It does? If it's just a blob of tissue and not a human being, why would it be a moral or spiritual issue? What exactly in the president's radical pro-death position would remotely resemble a moral or spiritual choice?

And of course, as predicted, the tired old....

So let us work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions, let's reduce unintended pregnancies. Let's make adoption more available. Let's provide care and support for women who do carry their children to term. Blah, blah, blah...

And from our emergent-pastor-in-chief....

Remember, too, that the ultimate irony of faith is that it necessarily admits doubt. It's the belief in things not seen. It's beyond our capacity as human beings to know with certainty what God has planned for us or what He asks of us. And those of us who believe must trust that His wisdom is greater than our own.

And this doubt should not push us away our faith. But it should humble us. It should temper our passions, cause us to be wary of too much self-righteousness. It should compel us to remain open and curious and eager to continue the spiritual and moral debate that began for so many of you within the walls of Notre Dame. And within our vast democracy, this doubt should remind us even as we cling to our faith to persuade through reason, through an appeal whenever we can to universal rather than parochial principles...
In other words, we can't know truth for certain, so you're probably wrong.

CR said...

I only caught parts of the speech during FNS, but man, he got a roaring applause by the students and faculty.

I don't know that I would have skipped my graduation if my college would have invited him. Why let one pro-abortionist and pro-infanticide President ruin my graduation day. But I certainly would not have giving him a roaring applause. It was a pretty despicable sight.

The Squirrel said...

A Long 3 & 3/4 years!


Susan said...

Listening to his speech on CNN video right now (it's on a different tab on my FF browser)--and so far it's applause and laughter--now he's talking about sports. Earlier there was this guy who was screaming something that drew boos and hisses, and here and there one can hear lone voices calling out in the background, but over all the student body's support has been overwhelming....

Okay, just got to the point where he is now making comparisons between people who are passionate about the same thing but who reach different conclusions about it (he gives examples of two soldiers defending the country, gay activist vs. evangelical pastor on the subject of HIV, and stem-cell research opponents vs. parents of a child who has juvenile diabetes, yada yada yada).

So you're right, Dan, it's quite misleading. What kind of stem-cell research? Embryonic or adult? I thought the progress made in stem-cell research came from the adult, not the embryonic.

All right, the rest of the speech will finish out (predictably) like a political Ode to Joy. Common ground....


Aaron said...

I love how he always talks about crass materialism and yet he, as the President, sees fit to indulge in benefits reminiscent of the excesses of monarchs of times long past.

Squirrel: I'm praying it will only be one term. I fully believe that it could be two.

Susan: To my knowledge, no gains have yet been made with embryonic stem cells. Scientists held high hopes for them because they thought they might be able to use them to grow any part or cell they needed. It hasn't turned out to be that way and other stem cells have already resulted in treatments. But the left doesn't tell the truth...they keep saying Bush banned stem cell research which isn't even close to an accurate statement.

CR: I don't think I'd miss my graduation either, unless somebody could convince me that something would be accomplished by such. But I certainly wouldn't have given applause.

PS. I don't even recall who the speaker was at my graduation much less what was said.

CR said...

Susan: So you're right, Dan, it's quite misleading. What kind of stem-cell research? Embryonic or adult? I thought the progress made in stem-cell research came from the adult, not the embryonic. You are correct, Susan. No progress made from ESCR. Much progress made from adult stem cell research.

Now, the next question that should come to mind, well, if there has been no progress made through ESCR, then why the push. The reason is simple, the push behind ESCR has nothing to do with science. It has everything to do with politics and pushing the abortion agenda.

CR said...

I think Ann Coulter made a good on point on Geraldo at Large which answers some of my questions on why the roaring applause at a Catholic University by faculty and students.

She said that President Obama wasn't speaking to people to that had any objections to abortion. In fact she went on to say that more interesting than watching Obama give a speech at the graduation is that they should have had the administrators of Notre Dame on stage taking a polygraph test on whether they believe in God! Touche!

Carol Jean said...

I cringe every time Ann Coulter (who did nothing to solve the riddle of whether or not she is Catholic)attempts to speak for Christians. I wish she'd stop!

Geraldo is a great, big Obama fan-boy! It's interesting that he reported that there were only a few protesters (Hannity reported hundreds)and gushed about his-one-ness's message of reconciliation.

Anonymous said...


I don't know. I think it'd be worth ruining my graduation to make a statement against Obama. Isn't that what taking a stand always does? Cost you something?

Actually, you're probably the last guy I wouldv'e expected to say that...just goes to show how blogging doesn't exactly let people get to know each other...

Anyhoo, I really appreciate your input CR. Keep it up.

Re - stem cells

The whole embryonic stem cell research funding thing is such a crock.
The R&D companies have such good results from aduilt stem cells that they're focussing there instead.

See this article

Embryonic stem cells are just a political football I think.

trogdor said...

Speaking as one who did skip his graduation - the protest wasn't against the speaker, but against having to pay a bunch of money to be bored to tears for hours on end - I think I actually would've been more likely to attend ND's. Of course, I would've left as soon as The Obama started speaking, which I think would've been a much more visible protest than just standing outside where the MSM could easily ignore.

I only caught a few seconds of the speech - excuse me, the oracle - but what I heard was truly disheartening. It's been said that The Obama is our first truly postmodern president, and that shone through brightly in the bit I heard, where he praised the genuineness of those who hold mutually exclusive positions and blabbed about how all views need to be respected blah blah blah. And the mass of new graduates from a premier educational institution applauded rabidly, apparently unable to see through such claptrap. Sadly, they probably are among the most highly-edumacated nowadays. Sigh.

CR said...

I don't know, Daryl, I just don't know that I would have skipped my graduation for pro-abortionist and pro-infanticide President Obama.

I mean, I worked hard for those four years and I'm going to let one murderer ruin it? I don't know. I mean, there are a lot of hypotheticals here. First, I wouldn't be caught dead going to a Catholic university. But if I were caught dead going to one, I probably would make a better statement while people are roaringly applauding President Obama, I just sit in my seat.

Why shouldn't one or more of my parents not see me walk the stage for all the hard work and money they put into me because of bunch of most likely atheistic administrators invited Obama.

I respect the people that made that choice. It was their choice. It's just not a choice I think I would make.