Tuesday, June 16, 2009

Yeah, so... what verse are we on?

Prime example of what I said was the biggest problem facing evangelicalism today.


Fred Butler said...

I guess he recovered well.

I would be curious of the context of that whole incident. Sermon illustration? Youth Skit? The mind boggles.

DJP said...

Can you imagine a context in which that would be an appropriate feature of an assembly?

Al said...

The biggest problem facing evangelicalism today is people are posting videos that I can't see at work?

This is either great news for evangelicalism or its not.

al sends

Unknown said...

I looked at the website that posted this video, and was stunned (not really) by what I found.

They regularly post here about their church growth committee, and how the key to growing a church is a good system. I thought the key to growing a church Biblically was the Gospel and the Word of God. But according to this site, Jesus was able to garner a lot of followers because his message was simple. Simple? I can recall at least one instance in scripture where people stopped following him because of "hard sayings". This site and the ideals it propose are exactly what is wrong with a multitude of so-called churches today.

And this motorcycle stunt is just an epic failure. No good reason for it, and someone could have gotten seriously hurt.

DJP said...

Right on, Ricky.

Angie said...

I doubt the janitor was pleased by the latest "cool" stunt. And let's all cheer for the guy who can't control the motorcycle around people! I'm rather disturbed by the people milling around the room, too. Is "teaching" just the backdrop for whatever else is going on?

DJP said...

"Come for the carnage, stay for the Bible teaching"?

Fred Butler said...

Can you imagine a context in which that would be an appropriate feature of an assembly?

(Fred)Oh, I don't know. Men's breakfast? Bakesale? This would probably have played well at the Methodist Bazaar we had once a year when I was a kid.

Trinian said...

John 2:15 (Wycliffe Theological Forgery translation)

"And when he had made a motorcycle of spare parts, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"

Doug Hibbard said...

Well, now that I see that the blogs from which I get all my affirmation don't approve of motorcycle stunts in church, I guess I'll have to re-write Sunday's Father's Day sermon.

Thanks a lot.

What am I supposed to do now? Use the Bible?

(note: sarcasm greatly intended. I planned all along to use the Bible and no motorcycles.)

Carol Jean said...

It's really a toss up at our former church as to when they "jumped the shark." Was it the iPod give-away in the youth group on bring-a-friend night or when they just gave up all pretense and gave away $100 in cash? The weekly Nooma videos? Was it the fog machine in the worship service the week they had a big-band theme? Or was it the Beatles impersonators?

All of these point to the same problem. No trust in the sufficiency of scripture and the Holy Spirit for salvation and sanctification - even though they would INSIST they believe that.

I can't believe that we subjected our kids to that for so long. But it's like you're on the treadmill and you can't jump off. Or the frog in the pot of water. It starts with an innocent video clip in the service and next thing you know you've got a motorcycle crash.

Kristine said...

Well that's just all kinds of sad. And to think, they prolly thought they were being "cool".

Herding Grasshoppers said...

Nice. Right along the back wall, where you might find mothers with babies.

Although, in a church like that, the kids are all probably somewhere else getting their spiritual "Cotton Candy".

Thankfully, I canNOT imagine a stunt like this in my church. (Though at our former church? Quite possibly.)


Anonymous said...

The guy at http://lancebradley.com/blog who posted the video specialize(s) in creative worship series planning and programming.

Becky Schell said...

See Kim, now THAT is worship! ;)

Trinian said...

I have this game that I play when I read a new "religious" blog. I find the first 3 references to Jesus Christ (not "God", not "Christian") and the first 3 bible verses... and essentially see how long it takes to find them.

The first verse I found at Lance's blog (had to go to page 2) was misquoted. The incorrect reference that he gave was 1 Peter 4:7 which reads (NASB) "The end of all things is near; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer."

IRONY. Love it.

Rachael Starke said...

Aaah! I wasn't able to watch this before now, and I thought I've mentioned this before, but -

I actually went to a church (on Father's Day, no less, Doug), where the entire elder board of the church did this (on Harleys, with leather jackets and aviator glasses, although minus the wheelies and big insurance claim for damage).

After driving down the aisle, they rode up onto the stage, then they stayed on the bikes and offered up random thoughts about fatherhood.

And not one single thought referenced God the Father, let alone His Son.

I grabbed a visitor card and filled the entire back of it with what Jesus might have thought of the service.

On the "positive" side, the same entire elder board stepped down several months later. Guess I wasn't the only one who was... perturbed.

DJP said...

I grabbed a visitor card and filled the entire back of it with what Jesus might have thought of the service.

And this is why we all love you so.

Here's the bitter, bitter irony. Guys like this, so desperate to be hep and trendy — are immediately out of date.

Guy who sticks to the Bible stays ahead of the curve.

By being outside the curve.

Herding Grasshoppers said...

The guy (or gal) who sticks to the Bible doesn't give a rat's patootie for the curve :0)


CR said...

ROFL! Sometimes you just have to bow the absurd.

Susan said...

Sermon title: The Problem with Evil (Knievel).