Tuesday, June 02, 2009

What Tiller's murderer accomplished - 1

I'm numbering this, because I expect there will be updates in the future.

The bloody butcher of thousands of innocent children is being mourned as a martyr and a real saint, by laity and Molechite priests alike.

One of the celebrators is a name familiar to readers of this blog. Check the Adventures in Apostasy alert on this Hither and Thither. There you will read of apostate pastoral usurper (and president/dean of Episcopal Divinity School) Katherine Hancock Ragsdale.

Rather than mourning Tiller's life as relentless and unrepentant killer of the unborn, and preaching the Gospel, Ragsdale said:
"This is about the loss of a man who was a saint and a martyr. He was a prayerful man who put his life at risk to protect others and died for it. People are in shock, outrage and mourning. They need a place to go."
I would say they need to go to Christ, but Ragsdale has other ideas.

So here's this Episcopal leader's moral hierarchy:
  1. Butcher helpless babies, you're a real saint
  2. Murder someone who butchers helpless babies, you're bad
Christians get their morality from a different place; according to which, neither is a martyr, both are bad. As I mentioned.


Truth Unites... and Divides said...

Ragsdale said:"This is about the loss of a man who was a saint and a martyr. He was a prayerful man who put his life at risk to protect others and died for it. People are in shock, outrage and mourning. They need a place to go."

Here's a place:

Boston Vigil for Dr. TillerJoin the Boston community in sharing our grief and celebrating the life of Dr. George Tiller, a true hero for women across the country.

Monday, June 1st

St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral
138 Tremont St., Boston
Across from the Park St. T stop

Please help us spread the word via email, Facebook, Twitter, and texts.
Facebook event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=88629078374&ref=nf
Twitter hashtag: #BostonVigil and #Tiller (this one is attracting some unpleasant tweets, however)

Dr. Tiller was shot and killed Sunday morning while serving as an usher at his church in Witchita, Kansas. Since the 1970s, Dr. Tiller has provided critical abortion and reproductive health care at great personal risk. In doing so, he has saved the lives and futures of countless women and girls across the country. His murder is a tragedy for his family, friends, and colleagues. It is also a tragedy for the women who need his care and for the entire community of health care providers and advocates, and for all of us who believe in a woman's right to dignity and self-determination. Please join us in honoring this great man who truly lived by his motto to "Trust Women."

Anonymous said...

The thought of people getting together to celebrate a man who brutally murdered babies is disgusting.

CR said...

If this wasn't so tragic, both his murder and the number of abortions he performed, this would be hilarious.

Aaron said...

Where's my bucket? I feel the need to throw-up.

Thank you Lord that you are in control. Because if you weren't, I'd be in a pit of despair.

Trinian said...

What a wonderful man to have saved so many countless women the terrible, tragic, and above all undignified (???) fate of being forced to bear and care for their own children. Truly, he was a man who sacrificed himself for the comfort, financial well-being, and convenience of us all.

God help us.

GrammaMack said...

A virulent Canadian anti-Christian writer at one of our biggest national papers calls it an act of domestic terrorism and says, "He performed acts of mercy...And he was more Christian – and pro-life – than the forced birthers can ever be." Forced birthers--that's a new one to me.

"Oh, here it's all cloaked differently. "Think of the `unborn' children." "What about the right of the fetus?" "Doesn't the baby get freedom of choice?'" What a load. The only thing that stands between the women-haters in other lands and women-haters here are the feminist men and women who fight for women's rights."

And this in the comments: "Every single Christian is to blame for this and countless other murders, murder that is committed in the name of their own personal lord and saviour. When are people going to wake up and realize that religion is evil and Christians are evil?"

I'm wondering if leaving a comment would be sprinkling salt or throwing pearls to pigs...

DJP said...

Marvelously plastic thing, language, isn't it?

If pro-lifers are forced-birthers, are anti-rapist forced-self-controllers, and anti-infanticiders forced-keeping-alivers, and anti-wife-beaters forced-gentlemanliers?


Halcyon said...

That Washington Post article had some real gems:

-Dr. Tiller "joins the list of martyrs for ethical decency and human rights, killed for healing with compassion."

-He was "killed for acting in accord with his religious commitments and his moral and ethical choices."

I'm not sure if such crap should make me laugh or cry...or BOTH.

CR said...

You know how if the Bible didn't say that the Christian life would be a life suffering we would be really depressed, I think it's true in the same way what we are witnessing. People are calling evil good (Tiller was a saint) and good evil (Christians who call abortion murder are guilty of murder). This is something that has been prophesied in Scripture in both the Old Testament and New Testament. We should all review 2 Tim 3:1-9.

Here's the one thing we should take comfort in: God's Word is true. People are calling good evil and evil good, and by golly, you know what, God said people would do that and they are. God's Word is true. I would be really depressed if all this was happening and the Lord didn't say that.

Anonymous said...

CR, Thanks for the encouragement.

Rachael Starke said...


That'll preach. Such a good word.

Jay said...

The state of our nation sickens me more and more each day. The past week has had so many stories of persecution against Christianity. Killers of babies are praised and martyred while 99.999% of Christians are wrongly lumped together with the .001% who also commit unjust murders.

How much deeper into Sodom and Gomorrah can the United States sink (if not already there)?

Tiller's murder accomplished NOTHING! Someone else will take his place and continue the slaughter - now even further protected by U.S. Marshalls with our tax money.

Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus!

Susan said...

Dan: "If pro-lifers are forced-birthers, are anti-rapist forced-self-controllers, and anti-infanticiders forced-keeping-alivers, and anti-wife-beaters forced-gentlemanliers?"

Classic. You should post that on the papers that L was talking about!!

Truth Unites... and Divides said...

June 2, 2009
For immediate release:

The Episcopal Women’s Caucus joins people of faith everywhere in our shock and deep sadness at the violent murder of Dr. George Tiller, who was gunned down Sunday morning, the Day of Pentecost, at The Reformation Lutheran Church, where he was a long time member.

Dr. Tiller was an internationally known champion of the reproductive rights of women. His senseless, untimely death is a cruel loss to his immediate family, his church family and religious people everywhere who understand that freedom of choice is a cultural and political reflection of the spiritual gift of free will which God bestows upon each and every one of us.

The comfort of the Christian faith is that we are assured of Dr. Tiller’s place in the eternal and loving embrace of Jesus. Our prayers are with Dr. Tiller’s family, who grieve his loss as well as with his church family, who are also deeply affected and traumatized by his murder in their sanctuary.

We pray also for his murderer, that healing and reconciliation may begin.

We deplore the ‘hate speech’ and inflammatory rhetoric which ultimately leads to these violent acts We pray that we might find a way past our passionately held beliefs, on either side of the great divide of this issue, and into a path of mercy, justice and peace – a peace which passes all human understanding.

Further, we pray that ‘respect for life’ includes respect for the life of every woman as well as all those whose lives are dedicated to the respectful and valiant cause of securing freedom of choice for all women.


(the Rev’d Dr.) Elizabeth Kaeton, President, EWC
Ms. Karen D. Bota, Editor, Ruach

Read it here.

Aaron said...

Tiller's partner has vowed to continue providing late term abortions.

Aaron said...


When are you going to add your e-mail address to your profile so I can e-mail you?

CR said...

Hey Gang,

I just listened this great sermon, Sin and Righteous Anger by D. Martin Lloyd-Jones and what great timing.

You know how most of us are praying for President Obama's salvation but if and/or until then we are asking the Lord to frustate his evil plans for our country.

And if I am to understand the Lord's pattern in Scriptures, rarely does He intervene with the powerful and mighty in saving them. He uses the evil and mighty powerful men to punish society. But there are exceptions: Nebuchadnezzar and Manasseh the Lord at the end did save them. So, he may, and I hope intervene with Obama.

But until then, I'm thinking okay, it's going to be a looooooooong 3.5 years, here. And most likely Obama is going to continue to do things that are evil and we are going to continue to see the things we are seeing with Tiller (our culture calling evil good and good evil). Are we allowed to be angry in this continual decline of morality and no thanks to Obama voters even a quicker moral decline in the next 3.5 years. Should we "turn the other cheek" or be effiminate or is there a difference between sinful anger and righteous anger.

Lloyd-Jones starts off with part 1 of this very important message that will be edifying to all of us.

DJP said...

1. Female pastors.

2. So, in their insane, anti-Biblical moral hierarchy, if the butchering of innocent children is "a cultural and political reflection of the spiritual gift of free will which God bestows upon each and every one of us" — then how is not Tiller's murder the same?

I speak as a... well, as an Episcopalian, evidently.

Daniel said...

It took me days to write a post on this. Again and again I found myself venting my rage at abortion and the culture that allows it, rather than speaking to the problem and what we can do about it.

Truth Unites... and Divides said...

I abhor what these false professors of Christ are doing. It's blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy. They commit spiritual murder.

Aaron said...

(hopes its only 3.5 years)